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How can a massive Elite Janissary army be countered?

 [_FS_]netqueen


Escrito 10 de mayo de 2013 - 12:57
its nearly imposible win against Turk after imperal age if there is enough gold.
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 TytheLion


Escrito 19 de mayo de 2013 - 02:53
First dont ever let your opponet boom secound try massed skirms light cavs and some heavy sporps and onagers hope this help:)
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 ANALizer


Editado 25 de mayo de 2013 - 07:14 por ANALizer
its just not possible in a land map. your best bet is to hold as long as possible and wait until his gold depletes. post imp viks is probably the worst civ in land map, while turks is one of the best (together with mongols, korea and celts, because of their op unique tech)

there are two situations if you play vik (you fast imp in both):
if he does fast imp: turk early imp is devastating, with instant hand cannoneers and bbcs & hussars, but it will leave his economy really low. This is the moment to fight because viks can do a fast imp as well but with huge economy difference. So you hold his attack and in the long run, your eco will make you win

if he doesn't fast imp: you obviously do fast imp and it's gg, completely impossible to defend arb / ram combo if he still castle booming. but not likely to happen unless enemy is very noob.
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 DestroyerZz


Escrito 25 de mayo de 2013 - 07:20
Cavalary archers kill turk"s jannisary easily. So u can try that......
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 jOhN_cEnA_


Escrito 14 de junio de 2013 - 09:05
onagers ! **** em all !
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 Badboylilbituf


Escrito 17 de junio de 2013 - 03:42
All of Age of Empires 2 units and their counters :

[*] If you are attacked by : Champion Line
-Counter with : Archers, Scorpions, Cav Archers, BB towers, Hand Cannoneers,
Saracen Mamelukes, Aztec Jaguar Warriors, Byz Cataphracts, (Paladins)

[*] If you are attacked by : Halberdier line
-Counter with : Champions, Archers, Cav archers, Scorpions, BB towers, Keep
line, Hand Cannoneers, Saracen Mamelukes, Aztec Jaguar Warriors, Byz Cataphracts

[*] If you are attacked by : Eagle Warriors
-Counter with : Champions, BB Towers, Hand Cannoneers, Saracen
Mamelukes, Aztec Jaguar Warriors, Byz Cataphracts, (Paladins), (Goth Huskarls)

[*] If you are attacked by : Archers
-Counter with : Skirmishers, Siege Onagers, BB Towers, BB Cannons, Keep
line, Paladin line, Eagle Warriors, Goth Huskarls

[*] If you are attacked by : Skirmishers
-Counter with : Anything excluding archery, Monks, and Korean War Wagons

[*] If you are attacked by : Cav Archers
-Counter with : Skirmishers, Siege Onagers, Towers, Eagle Warriors, Goth
Huskarls

[*] If you are attacked by : Hand Cannoneers
-Counter with : Paladin line, Archers, Cav Archers, Siege Onagers, Towers,
(Scorpions), (Skirmishers)

[*] If you are attacked by : Hussar line
-Counter with : Halberdier line, Champion line, Paladin Line, Camel line, Massed Scorpions (Hand Cannoneers), Janniserries, (Eagle Warriors), Towers, Cavalry Archers, Saracen Mamelukes, Byz Cataphracts, (Persian Elephants), (Teutonic Knights)

[*] If you are attacked by : Paladin Line
-Counter with : Halberdier line, Camel line, Saracen Mamelukes, BB Towers,
(Elephants)

[*] If you are attacked by : Camel Line
-Counter with : Halberdier line, Saracen Mamelukes, Teutonic Knights, (Eagle
Warriors), (Champions), Towers, Massed Scorpions

[*] If you are attacked by : Rams
-Counter with : Anything but archery

[*] If you are attacked by : Onagers
-Counter with : Anything hand to hand

[*] If you are attacked by : Scorpions
-Counter with : Onager line, Ram Line, Paladins, UU Archery, Eagle Warriors,
Goth Huskarls, Towers

[*] If you are attacked by : Monks
-Counter with : Anything fast or with range

( ) means works but not really considered a counter...

AOE-AOK-TC Unique Unit Counter Units :
If you are attacked by...Counter with

[*] Aztec Jaguar Warrior :
Archers, Cav Archers, Hand Cannoneers, Saracen Mameluke, Towers, (Paladins), Byz Cataphracts, Scorpions

[*] Briton Longbowmen :
Siege Onagers, Paladins, Eagle Warriors, Goth Huskarls, Korean War Wagon

[*] Byz Cataphract :
Paladins, Saracen Mameluke, Camel line, BB Towers, Mongolian Mangudai

[*] Celtic Woad Raider :
Paladin, Aztec Jaguar Warriors, UU Archery, Massed Scorps, Towers, Byz Cataphract, Cav Archers, Hand Cannoneers, Teutonic Knight, Saracen Mameluke

[*] Chinese Chu Ko Nu :
Skirmishers, Onagers, Eagle Warriors, Goth Huskarls, Paladins, British Longbowmen, Towers, Korean War Wagons

[*] Frankish Throwing Axemen :
Paladins, Onager line, Archers, Hand Cannoneers, (Saracen Mamelukes), Byz Cataphracts, Cav Archers, Towers, Scorpions,(Teutonic Knights), Persian War Elephants

[*] Goth Huskarls :
Champion Line, Hand Cannoneers, Paladins, Aztec Jaguar Men, Byz Cataphracts, BB Towers, Saracen Mamelukes, Frankish Throwing Axemen

[*] Hun Tarkan :
Paladins, Camel Line, Goth Huskarl, Halberdier line, Cav Archers, UU Archery

[*] Japanese Samurai :
Archers, Cav Archers Hand Cannoneers, Towers, Scorpions, Frank Throwing Axemen, Saracen Mameluke

[*] Korean War Wagon :
BB Towers, Siege Onagers, Camel line, Skirmishers, Trebuchets

[*] Mayan Plumed Archer :
Skirmishers, Eagle Warriors, Goth Huskarls, Brit Longbowmen, Paladins, Onager line, Korean War Wagons

[*] Mongol Mangudai :
Skirmishers, Archers, Massed Onagers, Towers, Eagle Warriors, Goth Huskarls, Korean War Wagon

[*] Persian War Elephant :
Halberdiers, Monks, VERY Massed Scorpions, BB Towers, Saracen Mamelukes

[*] Saracen Mameluke :
Onagers, Massed Scorps, Archers, Mongolian Mangudai, Towers

[*] Spanish Conquistador :
Towers, Archers, Cav Archers, Onager line

[*] Teutonic Knight :
Scorpions, Archers, Cav Archers, Hand Canoners, Towers

[*] Turkish Janissary :
Archers, Cav Archers, Paladins, Onager line, Massed Scorpions, Towers

[*] Viking Berserker :
Japanese Samurai, Archers, Cav Archers, Scorpions, Frank Throwing Axemen, Saracen Mamelukes Teutonic Knights, Hand Cannoneers, Persian War Elephants, Towers

( ) means works but not really considered a counter
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 Heart_of_Soul


Escrito 30 de julio de 2013 - 08:28
50 spearmen will do the job.
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 InstaAoC


Editado 4 de agosto de 2013 - 04:26 por InstaAoC
The best way to counter any range army is also using an army composed of range units. The longer are the range, better for you. It's suggest to you select about 10-15 units to direct the arrows into one enemy unit per time, so you'll weaken the group slowly.

Archers + Bombard Cannon seems the best option as BC got a huge range.
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 [IRKEN]IsrAlien_Dealer


Escrito 1 de noviembre de 2013 - 01:29
Well it exists a way, here we go: viks have capped rams, make 6 minimum and send them straight into the jenisar so they suck up as much fire as posibble, and champs to protect them from the husars (or even use cavalier). Then a main force of arbalest like 30, and onagers like 5 and put them as close as possible to the jenisar so they erase them. even though if viks have no siege onager theyre onager can do the job. viks also have heavy scorps it can help too. As you see, you have to be creative and use the whole range of units the Viks have. In AOE every civ can be countered, but not with just one unit, but with variety, hope it helped. (well except byzantines how do you stop 30 cataphracts, 30 camels and 30 palas!!?)
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 EK_


Escrito 6 de noviembre de 2013 - 01:17
The key is to not let him get there in the first place.
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 Socksyy


Escrito 7 de noviembre de 2013 - 00:09
Spam Militia! usually does the trick ;drunk
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 Mr_Trollster


Escrito 9 de febrero de 2014 - 00:19
Bunch of ****ing ****s replying to this thread.

Just send 5 rams in front of 40 arablests and those jannisarys are dead. GG
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 Innocent_Teuton


Escrito 12 de abril de 2014 - 10:22
turks can be unstopable with proper pop and monks behind them ...

kill monks first and then attack with pala :P or its archers use onagers or scorpians
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 Bala_Arizalu


Escrito 25 de junio de 2014 - 05:07
Use 5 or more Paladins + Skirmisher. ;huh
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 empress_SENEMAK


Escrito 29 de julio de 2014 - 14:43
i tried mass huskarls but i couldn t !


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